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		<title>By: Uln</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren.com/en/2009/07/08/2191/comment-page-1#comment-8298</link>
		<dc:creator>Uln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Thanks for your ideas. These methods you propose, as well as some others like writing Chinese in vertical, using russian characters, etc. have all one thing in common: they are ways to disguise the keywords to avoid them being found by a GSW automated search system. And they all have 2 inherent problems:

1- The search engines (google, etc.) also can&#039;t find the keywords, so you miss potential readers.
2- If you get big enough, especially if you write in Chinese, then you get human intervention and all these tricks will not work. 

But how automatic the GFW really is? I don&#039;t know. The Chrter 08 post that got blocked here had been written a few weeks before with the same wording, but it only got blocked when the NYT linked to it (with a few hours lapse). So, clearly, the block is not just on keywords; the &quot;hits&quot; or &quot;links&quot; variable plays an important role as well.

The other option is: it was actually a human who followed the NYT link and gave the signal to put me on a &quot;list&quot;. In this case, my writing the keywords in Russian or in scanned pictures would have had no effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thanks for your ideas. These methods you propose, as well as some others like writing Chinese in vertical, using russian characters, etc. have all one thing in common: they are ways to disguise the keywords to avoid them being found by a GSW automated search system. And they all have 2 inherent problems:</p>
<p>1- The search engines (google, etc.) also can&#8217;t find the keywords, so you miss potential readers.<br />
2- If you get big enough, especially if you write in Chinese, then you get human intervention and all these tricks will not work. </p>
<p>But how automatic the GFW really is? I don&#8217;t know. The Chrter 08 post that got blocked here had been written a few weeks before with the same wording, but it only got blocked when the NYT linked to it (with a few hours lapse). So, clearly, the block is not just on keywords; the &#8220;hits&#8221; or &#8220;links&#8221; variable plays an important role as well.</p>
<p>The other option is: it was actually a human who followed the NYT link and gave the signal to put me on a &#8220;list&#8221;. In this case, my writing the keywords in Russian or in scanned pictures would have had no effect.</p>
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		<title>By: FOARP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FOARP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a couple of ideas on getting around blocks:

1) Writing the post and then scanning it to create an image file, maybe even hand-writing it to make it harder for a non-native speaker to read. Essentially your web page would look like a photo blog, but with scanned pictures of your writing. The content would not show up on a text keyword filter, and would require the censor to actual upload the page and read it to know its content. The only problem would be that it wouldn&#039;t attract search-engine traffic, but blogs can be advertised in some other fashion, and the titles of the pictures would be searchable.

2) Like Pierre said, writing in some obscure half-forgotten language (like French) and then using an auto-translator to turn it into English - not exactly ideal as much of meaning/nuance would be lost, and some parts garbled, but better than nothing.

I think that the image-file method would be a particularly good method at least for a low-to-medium activity blog. Of course, once the censor actually gets around to reading your website (or just sees high-traffic &#039;anti-China&#039; websites linking to it) the game would be up, but you would go much longer between blocks.

For myself, I&#039;m happy to have my blog on good old blocked blogspot. There&#039;s no pressure to avoid blockage when you&#039;re already blocked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a couple of ideas on getting around blocks:</p>
<p>1) Writing the post and then scanning it to create an image file, maybe even hand-writing it to make it harder for a non-native speaker to read. Essentially your web page would look like a photo blog, but with scanned pictures of your writing. The content would not show up on a text keyword filter, and would require the censor to actual upload the page and read it to know its content. The only problem would be that it wouldn&#8217;t attract search-engine traffic, but blogs can be advertised in some other fashion, and the titles of the pictures would be searchable.</p>
<p>2) Like Pierre said, writing in some obscure half-forgotten language (like French) and then using an auto-translator to turn it into English &#8211; not exactly ideal as much of meaning/nuance would be lost, and some parts garbled, but better than nothing.</p>
<p>I think that the image-file method would be a particularly good method at least for a low-to-medium activity blog. Of course, once the censor actually gets around to reading your website (or just sees high-traffic &#8216;anti-China&#8217; websites linking to it) the game would be up, but you would go much longer between blocks.</p>
<p>For myself, I&#8217;m happy to have my blog on good old blocked blogspot. There&#8217;s no pressure to avoid blockage when you&#8217;re already blocked!</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you are hosted in the same address as FLG.com, then you know it was not you.&quot;

I did not know Forward Logistic Group was that sensitive a topic in China ;)

BTW, do you know if anyone writing in a language other than English and Chinese has ever been blocked ? Like in Spanish or French ? Or are we free to write home about la Paz Celestial en mille neuf cent quatre-vingt neuf because they don&#039;t care ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you are hosted in the same address as FLG.com, then you know it was not you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did not know Forward Logistic Group was that sensitive a topic in China <img src='http://chinayouren.com/en/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW, do you know if anyone writing in a language other than English and Chinese has ever been blocked ? Like in Spanish or French ? Or are we free to write home about la Paz Celestial en mille neuf cent quatre-vingt neuf because they don&#8217;t care ?</p>
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		<title>By: uln</title>
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		<dc:creator>uln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kai, thanks for telling me. I have been travelling these days and I opened the blog editor with my mobile phone browser last night. Bad idea. many of the editing functions are not available for the mob browser and I ended up messing up the whole post.

Here it is open again. Anybody out there who was blocked, let me know if this is useful, or add any other suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kai, thanks for telling me. I have been travelling these days and I opened the blog editor with my mobile phone browser last night. Bad idea. many of the editing functions are not available for the mob browser and I ended up messing up the whole post.</p>
<p>Here it is open again. Anybody out there who was blocked, let me know if this is useful, or add any other suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, looks like your post is cut off mid-way through Action #2...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, looks like your post is cut off mid-way through Action #2&#8230;</p>
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